[tied] Re: Sanskrit Rta... and related terms

From: Sean Whalen
Message: 41687
Date: 2005-11-01

--- Sean Whalen <stlatos@...> wrote:
>
> --- david_russell_watson <liberty@...>
> wrote:
>
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "stlatos"
> > <stlatos@...> wrote:
>
> > > all dental > retro after r. (dialect)
> >
> > Don't you count far far more instances of 'rt',
> 'rth', 'rd',
> > or 'rdh' than 'rt.', 'rt.h', 'rd.', or 'rd.h'?
> > Actually, can
> > you name even one word in Sanskrit with one of the
> latter
> > clusters?

> What about mr.d.- "be gracious, pardon";
> mr.d.i:ka-
> "favor" from mld-dH3- "give
> softness/allowance/mercy"?

Also, drd.ha- < drd.d.ha- < drd.ha- < drg^hto-
"hard, firm" from drh- < drg^h- "make firm, fasten".

> > > To Sanskrit:
> > >
> > > all dental > retro after s., z., or n.
> >
> > After 'n.'?
>
> Yes. I don't know if you agree with all of these
> derivations (not mine) but:
>
> melno- golno- H2ner.-ns
> melno- golno- ner.-ns
> melno- golno- ner.ns
> melno- golno- nr.ns
> mel.no- gol.no- nr.ns
> mel.n.o- gol.n.o- nr.n.s
> mel.n.o- gol.n.o- nr.n.s.
> men.l.o- gon.l.o- nr.n.s.
> men.d.o- gon.d.o- nr.n.s.
>
> man.d.ala- gan.da.- nrnĀš
>
> circle cheek (San) men acc. (Av)

Also

mldno- enr.o-
mldno- endr.o-
ml.dno- endr.o-
ml.ndo- er.ndo-
ml.n.do- er.n.do-
ml.n.d.o- er.n.d.o-
mr.n.d.o- er.n.d.o-
mr.n.d.a- ar.n.d.a-
mr.n.d.a- an.d.a-
mun.d.a-

blunt, hornless, egg
head-shaven

mun.d.a- < softened, worn down; an.d.a- < inner thing?


r. > u is a change in the later-recorded languages so
this must have been a popular word not a preserved
form


Later rules may obscure the scope of n>n. and retro.
spreading.

mld-maya- > mr.nmaya- "clay-measure/arrange" >
"pottery"

kr.netti>kr.n.atti>kr.n.tati "cuts"

winedti>widneti>vindati "finds" (Av. vi:nasti "finds",
vind@... "they find")






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