[tied] Re: Sanskrit Rta... and related terms

From: Sean Whalen
Message: 41686
Date: 2005-11-01

--- Richard Wordingham
<richard.wordingham@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Sean Whalen
> <stlatos@...> wrote:
>
> > Then why *bhendhsye- to Sanskrit bhantsyati
> instead
> > of **bandzhyati or something like that? It's
> > necessary to have morpheme boundaries in the rule.
>
> See discussion at
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/13294
> et seq. The 'something like that' form actually
> occurs!
>
> Richard.

But this is no evidence for dhzh, ghzh, etc., ever
existing. As Piotr says in the last message in that
thread: in PIE Ch > C before voiceless obstr.
word-final (I agree, also syl-final) so the ordering
of the middle stages could go either way. If ghzh,
etc., had ever existed I'd expect *ghmas/jhmas as gen.
of "earth".

édhught bhéudhsye- bhudhtó- bhudhzdhwói bhebhóudhe
édhugt bhéudhsye- bhudhtó- bhudhzdhwói bhebhóudhe
édhukt bhéudhsye- bhudhtó- bhudhzdhwói bhebhóudhe
édhuks bhéudhsye- bhudhtó- bhudhdhwói bhebhóudhe
édhuk bhéudhsye- bhudhdhó- bhudhdhwói bhebhóudhe
édhuk béudhsye- budhdhó- budhdhwói bebhóudhe
édhuk béudsye- budhdhó- budhdhwói bebóudhe
édhuk béutsye- budhdhó- budhdhwói bebóudhe
ádhuk báutsya- budhdhá- budhdhwái babáudha
ádhuk bó:tsya- budhdhá- budhdhwé: babó:dha
ádhuk bó:tsya- budhdhá- budhdhvé: babó:dha
ádhuk bó:tsya- buddhá- buddhvé: babó:dha
ádhuk bhó:tsya- buddhá- buddhvé: babó:dha

ghdóm- ghdmós
ghzóm- ghzmós
gzóm- gzmós
gzóm- gzmós gmós
gz.óm- gz.mós gmós
gz.óm- jmós gmós
gz.ám- jmás gmás
ks.ám- jmás gmás

Ch>C before unaspirated obstr. in same syl.
C> -voice before unvoiced obstr. in same syl.

t > s and d > z after voiced velar stop (g, gh, g^,
gW, etc.) but not at morpheme boundaries

t>s after k in same syllable

Ch>C before s or z in same syllable

stop1+stop2 > stop1 in same syl.

s>0 between obstruents
s>0 between obstruent and end of word (opt.)
s>0 between obstruent and sonorant (opt.)

s > s. and z > z. after velar, retroflex C, or high
vowel

gz. > j before C in same syllable

dht>dhdh etc.

Ch>C before non-touching Ch

Ch>C before unaspirated obstr. in next syl.
C > -voice before unvoiced obstr. in next syl.
C > +voice before voiced obstr. in next syl.

e/o > a
ai > e:
a:u > au

w > (v)

gz. > ks.

ChCh > CCh

analogy (future with aor., dó:ksyati>dhó:ksyati with
ádhuk, etc.) optional but spreads to all later





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