[tied] Re: Interesting names in Sweden

From: tgpedersen
Message: 38966
Date: 2005-06-29

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...>
wrote:
> At 10:21:56 AM on Tuesday, June 28, 2005, aquila_grande
> wrote:
>
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen"
> > <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
>
> >> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott"
> >> <BMScott@...> wrote:
>
> >>> At 7:21:29 PM on Monday, June 27, 2005, aquila_grande
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>>> kvänn - may be the name of an ethnic group immigrated
> >>>> from Finland. The world is present in many Norwegian
> >>>> names.
>
> >>> Alternatively consider <af Kuændale> ca.1360 for modern
> >>> Norwegian <Kvanndal>; the first element is from the OIc
> >>> plant name <hvo,nn> 'angelica'. It's also in <Kvenna>,
> >>> explained as from OIc *<Hvannin>, from <hvo,nn> + <vin>
> >>> 'meadow'.
>
> >> There's a Vanløse near Copenhagen, 1186 [Huan]lose, 1198
> >> Hwanløsæ. Consensus is that it's not the angelica name.
> >> Politikens Stednavneordbog suggests origin from *Hwatn,
> >> the old (undocumented) name of Harrestrup Å, from ON
> >> *hwat "rapid" < "sharp".
>
> Makes sense for a river-name.
>
> > "Vannlausa" is a very typical Norwagian place name, that
> > describes a place. It can be analyzed as vann-laus-a =
> > water - lacking - the one. = The one that is lacking
> > water.
>
> However, Torsten's Danish <Vanløse> is unlikely to contain
> the 'water' word, given the <H> in the 1198 <Hwanløsæ>.
>
> Torsten: What etymology is suggested for the second element?
>

Some sources say that a distinction should be made between the
original migration period names in -løse, whatever the second
element means there, which are concentrated on Sjælland (which, if
one wants to interpret the archaeological record and legendary
material that way, was conquered centuries later, cf. the
distribution of 'Avon'-names in Britain), and later, partly humorous
names in -løse, where it means -less.


Torsten