Re: [tied] Early PAlb Depalatisations of k', g' > k, g

From: elmeras2000
Message: 38906
Date: 2005-06-23

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Abdullah Konushevci"
<akonushevci@...> wrote:
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "elmeras2000" <jer@...> wrote:
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > > The satemisation of *k^, g^
> > > and *g^H was blocked or cancelled before _consonantal_ liquids
and
> > > nasals, but not before their syllabic variants. In *smek^ru-
there
> > was
> > > no syllabic *r. in PIE, and so we have /k/ in <mjekër>. From
> > *g^Hr.zdo-
> > > 'cereal, barley', on the other hand, we get <drithë>.
> >
> > Is it really possibly to get Gk. kri^ and kri:thé: out of
something
> > with a syllabic r?
> >
> > Jens
> ************
> Do you mean that Greek syllabic /r./ yields always <ar> not mater
of
> environment, like *g'hr.i-s > kharis 'grace, favor' or in *kWet(w)
r. -
> tetra- 'four' or *kWt(w)r.- tra- in trapezium etc.
>
> Also, do you mean that depalatisatio took place in Proto-Albanian
> before syllabic variants of liquids and nasals?

I mean, I do not know of a change from IE syllabic r to a Greek
segment /ri:/; therefore, if kri:thé: reflects the same stem as Alb.
drithë, I do not find it obvious that the Albanian word reflects an
IE syllabic r.

Jens