--- In
cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...>
wrote:
> At 8:56:07 AM on Tuesday, June 21, 2005, alexandru_mg3
> wrote:
>
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...>
wrote:
>
> >> alexandru_mg3 wrote:
>
> >>> , I was the first to say (I mean in this discussion)
> >>> that we have here a 'simple' *dek^s-)
>
> >> ... which is unattested in IE despite the wide
> >> distribution of this word-family.
>
>
> > Piotr, please find here some attested forms:
> > Gk. dexios
> > Ir. dess,
> > Welsh deheu,
> > Goth. taihswa
>
> > url:
>
> > http://www.indoeuropean.nl/cgi-bin/response.cgi?
> > root=leiden&morpho=0&basename=\data\ie\frisk&first=1211
>
> Read it again: that very source says that <dess> and
> <taihswa> are from *dek^s-wo-, not from unextended *dek^s-.
>
> Brian
Brian, of course that is *dek^s-wo- in that examples.
It was me that posted this url!
When I said 'simple' I referred that there isn't any consonantic
cluster like in dexter-, daks'ina etc...
But for sure my English is not good enough and create such
confusions. Sorry.
All the discussion was arround this, please read it again:
-k'st in gjashtë contains a consonantic cluster CCC that gave a
regular sht, but we cannot take this rule into account regarding
djathë.
So only in djathë having only k's we can talk about the output of
k's
Of course that we can talked also about k's-w here...
Piotr raise this point. I accepted this too as a possibility and I
derived dek's-wo < djathë only applying regular Albanian rules....
(But also a reshaped PAlb ending in a: > dec-sa: / dec-ca: cannot be
excluded. I can post you such reshaped PAlb. forms in a: that
initially have had another ending in PIE).
But the topic was : what is the Albanian rule for PIE *k's. And
the discussion started because in an previous derivation (posted
awhile ago for kohë) Piotr have proposed a cluster k's > h
And this false rule k's > h appears even today in a lot of books.
Best Regards,
Marius
P.S. : But now if we have raised the point: please derive the Grk.
dexios, too.