[tied] PIE *y > Alb. /z/ (was Re: Romanian Verb )

From: elmeras2000
Message: 38622
Date: 2005-06-14

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Abdullah Konushevci
<akonushevci@...> wrote:

> But, really I want to know do you found plausible my explanation that
> Alb. demonstratives <ajo> from *H2eu- + saH2 > *au- + *sa:, as well
> <ai> from *au- + *so.

I don't know what the a- is; nor do I know what the kë- of ky këtë kjo

> And, at last, what do you think do we have in
> Alb. possessive pronoun <ynë> is derived from *we- 'we' + enclitic
> *nos, attested in <jonë>.

It should be *so-nos, but I am not too comfortable with the form y-. I
have once guessed at identity with Avestan huuo: 'he'. That form is
now commonly considered to be a phonetic development from Iranian
*hau, but I am not sure that is correct. If there was a *suos, the
Albanian reflex could well be y.

> The distinction between Pedersen's etymology
> and mine is just this /s/, that, according to him, became zero, and,
> to my view, <j>, probably through intermediary stage <gj>.

That is exactly what I have suggested. Pedersen saw the j- as a hiatus
filler arisen i sandhi. He said the same for ju 'you', but since *s-
and *y- both yield gj- it looks more like a further reduction of that.