From: tgpedersen
Message: 38565
Date: 2005-06-13
> On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 11:02:21 +0000, tgpedersenSanskrit
> <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >> >> >I thought it would be nice
> >> >> >to fix that by putting in a mechanism to generate ablaut in
> >the
> >> >> >paradigm. Also, my proposal follows the accent of the
> >s-o-
> >> >> >aorist, at least in the sg.
> >> >>
> >> >> No it doesn't. The s-aorist has root stress throughout.
> >> >> Perhaps you mean the se-aorist, which has theme-stress
> >> >> throughout.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >From your own notes:
> >> >Slavic
> >> >-xU, -sU
> >> >-0
> >> >-0
> >> >
> >> >-xomU, -somU
> >> >-ste
> >> >-s^e~, -se~
> >> >
> >> >-xove^, -sove^
> >> >-sta
> >> >-ste
> >> >
> >> >"
> >> >The first person has been thematized (*-sW-o-m, *sW-o-mos, *sW-
> >> >we:), the others are athematic...as in the semi-thematic paradigm
> >> >"
> >>
> >> The first persons come from the se-aorist, the 2/3 persons
> >> pl. and du. come from the s-aorist, the 2/3sg. com from the
> >> root aorist or the imperfect.
> >
> >...he said authoritatively. Why do you think that?
>
> The first persons have a thematic vowel and end-stress,
> the 2/3 persons pl. and du. have no thematic vowel and end-stress,as in the semi-thematic paradigm, except for the 3rd pl.
> the 2/3sg. have root-stress and sometimes aas in the semi-thematic paradigm
> thematic vowel (-e), sometimes not.
>All three are stressed on the augment, so we have no knowledge of
> >> >TP: now add a thematized 3rd pl and you got a semi-thematic
> >paradigm
> >> >
> >> >and
> >> >
> >> >Sanskrit
> >> >á-bha:r-s.-am
> >> >á-bha:r-s.-0
> >> >á-bha:r-s.-0
> >> >
> >> >etc. Full grade of suffix in 1st person, zero-grade otherwise.
> >>
> >> The first person is also zero grade: -m. > -am
> >>
> >
> >It can't be < *-om ?
>
> Not here. The thematic form would have been *bhars.ám
> (*bhersóm), not bhá:rs.am (*bhé:rsm.). Wrong Ablaut, wrong
> stress.
>