Re: [tied] Re: sum

On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:23:03 +0000, tgpedersen
<tgpedersen@...> wrote:

>--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...> wrote:
>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:15:19 +0000, tgpedersen
>> <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
>> That there is no reason to assume such a paradigm existed,
>> and good reason to assume it didn't (3pl. Slavic -s^éN, Ved.
>> -súr).
>>
>From stative?

Slavic -s^éN is stressed in ap c verbs, so from *-sént. The
Vedic 3pl. is also stressed, so the form probably goes back
to *-sé:r, with *-é:r later replaced by static *'-r.s > -ur.

>> >I thought it would be nice
>> >to fix that by putting in a mechanism to generate ablaut in the
>> >paradigm. Also, my proposal follows the accent of the Sanskrit s-
>> >aorist, at least in the sg.
>>
>> No it doesn't. The s-aorist has root stress throughout.
>> Perhaps you mean the se-aorist, which has theme-stress
>> throughout.
>>
>
>From your own notes:
>Slavic
>-xU, -sU
>-0
>-0
>
>-xomU, -somU
>-ste
>-s^e~, -se~
>
>-xove^, -sove^
>-sta
>-ste
>
>"
>The first person has been thematized (*-sW-o-m, *sW-o-mos, *sW-o-
>we:), the others are athematic...
>"

The first persons come from the se-aorist, the 2/3 persons
pl. and du. come from the s-aorist, the 2/3sg. com from the
root aorist or the imperfect.

>TP: now add a thematized 3rd pl and you got a semi-thematic paradigm
>
>and
>
>Sanskrit
>á-bha:r-s.-am
>á-bha:r-s.-0
>á-bha:r-s.-0
>
>etc. Full grade of suffix in 1st person, zero-grade otherwise.

The first person is also zero grade: -m. > -am


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