Re: Timeframe for Alb rd > rdh?

Hello George,
Thanks for this feedback.

The main question that remain here is if the Albanian word 'çerdhë'
meaning 'nest' coud be linked or not with the Slavic word for 'herd'?

Best Regards,
Marius

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tolgs001" <st-george@...> wrote:
> >Could you help me here with the etymology of other 2 Albanian
words
> >that I could identified showing an rd > rdh in Albanian :
> >
> >1. Alb çerdhë 'nest' - Sl. c^erda 'herd' ?(but the semantism
> >cannot fit in my opinion). Other etymology? Opinions?
>
> The latter example fits Old Slavic c^re^da > Romanian cireadä
> "herd." Other two words seem to be related, both phonetically and
> semantically: Romanian ciurdä ['c^urd&], of which Romanian
> linguistic sources say it is a Hungarian loanword < Hung. csorda
> ['c^ordO] (< PIE?) "herd; flock"
>
> Perhaps also related Romanian cârd < Serbian krd (for groups of
> various animals; in Romanian chiefly for birds, though).
>
> > 3. Alb. shkërdhec ? 'barrel'? - here we already have s > sh so
> >here we can syncronized the loan moment also regarding this
> >transformation (but we also have a suffix in c).
>
> I'm afraid this would be of little help for Romanian, since the s >
sh
> before stops (such as [k], [t], [p]) is *still* productive -- esp.
in
> western regions of Romania. But only at the subdialectal &
colloquial
> level.
>
> George