Re: [tied] Bakkhos etymology

From: Daniel J. Milton
Message: 37367
Date: 2005-04-25

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Aigius" <segijus@...> wrote:
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Joao S. Lopes" <josimo70@...>
wrote:
> > Is there a Lithuanian word nerove "ondine"?
> > And we have here the "egg-chicken" dilemma: Ne:reides are named
> after their father Ne:reus, or Ne:reus is named after his daughters
> Ne:reides?
>
> I think, that word UNDINE was derived from word VANDUO, meaning
> WATER, in some way like this: VANDUO > name Vandys > name Vandine,
> meaning DAUGHTER OF Vandys, > name Undine. There is word UNDUO
instead
> of VANDUO in some dialects of Lithuanian language. Compare with
> Latvian word U:DENS, meaning WATER.
> I think, that name Nerius was at first. From Lithuanian names
first
> was mentioned name Zhvelgaitis. It means SON OF Zhvelgas or
Zhvelgys.
> Compare with Lithuanian surnames Augaitis, Basiukaitis, Danaitis,
> Gerulaitis, Sharmaitis, Trakinaitis, Zhygaitis, etc. There is such
> Lithuanian surname Danas. Daughters of Danas have surname Danaite.
Can
> this be compared with name Danas and Danaida the daughter of Danas
in
> Greek mythology? If there would be Lithuanian surname Neras, then
> daughter of Neras would have surname Neraite, daughter of Nerius
would
> have surname Neriute. Compare with surname Saulius > Sauliute.
>
> Regards, Aigius
*********
From: http://www.pantheon.org/articles/u/undine.html

"In Teutonic folklore, undines are female water-spirits who like to
associate with humans. They often join villagers in their dances and
merry-making. An undine was created without a soul, but by marrying a
mortal and bearing him a child she obtained a soul and with it all the
pains and penalties of the human race.

She is the subject of the tale Undine (1811) by Friedrich de la Motte
Fouqué. The word was invented by the medieval scholar Paracelsus."

I rather doubt that Paracelsus knew Lithuanian. However, I
suspect he did know the Latin 'unda' "wave".
Dan Milton