Re: [tied] Bakkhos etymology

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "david_russell_watson"
<liberty@...> wrote:

> That's not just your suggestion, but a known fact.
> In fact the older calendar strangely had only ten
> months until Januarius and Februarius were added
> later on, supposedly by king Numa Pompilius. So we
> should expect the names of the two new months to
> have come from the Latin language of that time.

should we expect it?

>
> > The name of the month is best represented in the Mycean
> > *enuwaliyos
>
> Assuming that you intend 'Mycenaean' with "Mycean",
> why should we prefer this Greek etymology to the
> Latin one based on 'Janus'?
> How did Pompilius come
> by this Greek word, and why would he use Greek in
> preference to his own Latin when naming a month?
> Did contemporary Greeks use a superior twelve-month
> calendar upon whose example the Romans decided to
> remodel their own, borrowing a Greek name for one
> of the new months in the process?

see the name "Iannarils" which looks pretty very appropiated to
"enuawalios"

>
> Why do you put an asterisk in front of 'enuwaliyos'
> anyway? What's your source for this word and what's
> it actually supposed to mean?

the asterix was a mistake. I guess Joao gave already details
about "enuwaliyos".

> > I don't see any connection here with "portal" and Janus for the
> 11-
> > th month of the year. Does someone know this connection?
>
> The connection is to the *god* Janus, to whom king
> Pompilius was supposedly dedicating the new month.
>
> David

"was supposedly" is saying just we have to deal with a supposition.
I sustained the name of the month could derive from "Ares" and not
from "Janus". My reasons are here:

- there is in Rom. the old name for Januar which is "Gherar"; if one
will insiste the Gherar is derived from "Januarius" one should look
for something better to do. If one consider Januar & Gerar do not
have anything to do with each other, then one is wrong in this
assumtion. Presumabely the word was an prefix + arius.If this "arius"
derives from an older "*alius", that is what one should try to find
out. After all, the Greeks sustained the "Ares" should be a Thracian
good and we do know about intervocalic "l" > "r" in some languages.
Assuming the "*aliyos" is a name, would in this case the Mycenian
enuw-aliyos would make any sense? what should be "enow-" mean here?

Alex


Alex