Re: [tied] Bakkhos etymology

From: Joao S. Lopes
Message: 37322
Date: 2005-04-24

I cannot see a strong horse-symbolism in Bakkhos. I agree with the equine and maybe wind traits of Ares. Even Bakkhos was not Greek he can have IE traits, through some Thracian, Phrygian or Illyrian adstratum. Latin Janus (cf. Januarius "January", Portuguese janeiro; janua "door", januella "window", Portuguese janela, janitor "door-keeper") < *ya:-nos, and Enyalios came from Mycenean *enuwaliyos. Short e doesnt match a:, and the ya:- would give Greek ze:- or he:-.
Any link between Are:s and Areion, divine horse son of Poseidon?
How about Are:s < *re:z(^) or re:s(^) "king" ?


alex <alxmoeller@...> wrote:

>
> Now Ares is a son of Zeus also, associated with growth, war, horses
> (mare's milk anyone?), and intoxicants.
>
> Bacchus may be an Anatolian(?), tamer form of Ares, so that
> 'quarreler' is an appropriate name.
>
>
> Patrick


Dyonision is a later good, it cannot have IE origin, it appeared later
in the Thracian mithology and was imported too by Phyrigians. Ares was
originary the good of the hard winter, of the cumplitely wind.
Presumabely his name is the one which is at the origin of the name of
the month "Januarius", and not Jovis (Janus) as generaly assumed.

Alex




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