Re: Loans from afar

> > > > The main reason is it's so heavily creolised
> > >
> > > It isn't, of course.
> > >
> >
> > On the subject:
> >
> > http://www.angelfire.com/rant/tgpedersen/KuhnText/list.html
> >
>
> At
>

http://www.angelfire.com/rant/tgpedersen/KuhnText/austronesianP.html

> I've placed the p-section of Otto Dempwolff's reconstruction of
> Proto-Austronesian. It bothers me that many of them look like
> familiar PIE roots, especially in the semantic fields of life on

the

> waterfront. It futher worries me that many of them look like roots
> of Nordwestblock, as seen above. And it really irritates me that
> many of them look like Latin mots populaires in pa- or ba-. Among
> them, the most annoying ones are:
>

[It seems either my idea that some IE and Semitic words are loans
from a South East Asian, presumably Austronesian, language has now
reached stage two in my pocket version of Thomas Kuhn's three phases
of the typical pradigm-shift:

1) Shut up, idiot
2) Ignore that idiot
3) We know that already, idiot

or else the honored readers of cybalist don't know a PIE root when
they see one. To cover the latter eventuality, here is the list
again, this time with the PIE roots I was thinking of:

> pa(n)dan, grassy area, steppe, plain, *ped-, pedom, cf Skt. padam
> pid'ak "tread, kick"

http://www.bartleby.com/61/roots/IE379.html

> pa[']&n "(what serves a fodder =) bait", *pah2-
> cf. 'umpan id.
> pakan "fodder"
> vgl. ka|&n "food stores"
> pan,an "dish"
> vgl. ka|&n "food stores",
> pakanII "fodder"

http://www.bartleby.com/61/roots/IE369.html

> pan,gan, "roast", *pekW- "cook, ripen"
> putu` "cake"

http://www.bartleby.com/61/roots/IE384.html

> pag&[l.] surrounding fence, *pag-, also pak- "fasten"

http://www.bartleby.com/61/roots/IE371.html>

> pan,gun, "elevated area"

id.

> paha` "stem"
> Nebenform pahi`- id.

see pag&[l.]

> pahi` "stem"
> sideform paha` id.
> pan,kat "elevated area, rank"
> sideform 'an,kat "raise"
> paku`l "nail"
> pa(n,)k'an, "piece of wood"
> pala' "rack, scaffold"
> pa[l.]ig' "fortification"
> pal.ut "file"
> p&G&t' "squeeze out"
> p&k'ah "in pieces"
> pun.tuk "elevated area"
> palu` "beat"
> p&n[t]at' "platform"
> pan[t]al. "elevated area"
> pu(n)dul "to blunt"
> pal.an, "machete"
> paju` "agree", cf Lat. pa:x "peace"
> papag "meet"
> p&gan, "hold fast"
> sideform [l.]&gan, id.

> pagut "pick"
> pa(n)tuk "pick"
> puk'uk "top"
> sideform pu(n,)k'ak, pu(n,jk'u` id.