Re: The Thrakoid presence in ancient Ukraine (Was: [tied] Thracian

From: george knysh
Message: 37182
Date: 2005-04-14

--- George Hinge <litgh@...> wrote:
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski
> <gpiotr@...> wrote:
> > george knysh wrote:
> >
> > > GK: I suggest you get the book and react to
> its
> > > evidence. If you're not interested in doing
> this,
> > > there's not much point in continuing.
> >
> > Well, one thing you could do before I arrange an
> interlibrary loan
> would
> > be to summarise briefly the nature of the
> evidence, and in particular
> > the arguments in favour of *a: retaining its
> length in Steppe Iranian
> at
> > the beginning of the first millennium.
>
> I would appreciate to have the arguments summarised
> too. I have ordered
> the book through an interlibrary loan now, but it
> will take several
> weeks before I have it (there is no copy of it in
> Denmark).

*****GK: Piotr Gonsiorowski, the Ukrainophile (OK I'll
bite (:=)) who doesn't seem to have access to books
and articles by Ukrainian linguists, knows very well
that I am not a professional linguist, and that I have
already blundered many a time in my inexpert efforts
at summarizing technical arguments. I'll let these
people speak for themselves. I do have something to
contribute in other areas (such as political history
and archaeology, the latter requiring a bit less
technicism than linguistics in reporting facts).
I apologize to Piotr for the rudeness of my reaction
to his comments about the Thrakoid pesence on the
territory of Ukraine in ancient times. My only excuse
is that it was nearly 4 a.m. here and I was dead
beat. I won't do it again.
It is a pity that there seem to be no Ukrainian,
Belarusian, or Russian linguists on Cybalist (at least
none who care to intervene frequently). Sergejus
Tarasovas occasionally tries, but he's more into
Baltic and Lithuanian. There was a chap Stetsiuk back
in 1999, but he seems to have disappeared (along with
the list founder...)and in any case his point of view
appeared to be somewhat less tham mainstream, putting
it delicately. Is there no way for Piotr to encourage
participation by such experts?
As to Stryzhak et al. I could try scanning a few pages
from him, but would need technical advice on how to
make this available. In any case the issues require
scrutiny of much more than the abbreviated pages of
his 1981 work. The point he tries to make is based on
remarks by Trubachov in the latter's "Nazvaniia rek
Pravoberezhnoi Ukraini" (Moscow: Nauka 1969, pp.
216-218). Stryzhak razors this down on pp. 27-30 of
his work.******








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