Re: [tied] Re: Slavic infinitive ending kinship

On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:55:47 +0100, Miguel Carrasquer
<mcv@...> wrote:

>On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:45:12 +0000, Rob
><magwich78@...> wrote:
>
>>--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Petusek" <petusek@...> wrote:
>>> Hello everyone!
>>>
>>> What is the PIE reconstruction of the Slavic infinitive ending /-
>>ti/ (Czech -t, -ti, -ci < gti/kti), its origin and kinship? Are there
>>non-Slavic IE languages that use this (or related) ending to form
>>infinitives? Thank you for your comments and advice.
>>>
>>> Petusek
>>
>>Hello, Petusek.
>>
>>From what I've read, the Slavic infinitive ending is a combination of
>>the IE nomina actionis (i.e., abstract noun) ending *-ti plus
>>locative *-i, yielding the form *-ti:.
>
>The origin is indeed action noun *-tis in a case form. In
>theory, it could be the locative *-te:i or the dative
>*-teiei. Both give -i in Slavic, and both have been
>replaced in normal i-stems in Lithuanian. The fact that
>*-tí is normally end-stressed rather points to the locative.

Aha. That might explain it. I forgot to make explicit in
the above (I assumed it was common knowledge) that Baltic
also makes infinitives in -t(i), which makes it not merely
the Slavic, but the Balto-Slavic infinitive.

I did not, of course, use Lithuanian as an example of a
Slavic language.

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>From: dankandall <DanKandall@...>
>Subject: End it now!
>To: mcv@...
>Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:48:54 +0000
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>Please stop using Lithuanian as an
>example of a "slavic" language.
>
>We are sick of you slavic scum
>attempting to eradicate us physically
>as well as culturally.

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