Miguel Carrasquer wrote:
>>
>> since you use "ilae" , demonstrative feminine pl is in Rom. "alea"
>> Hmmm.. I make a mentaly check now.. do I make a mistake? "copilele
>> alea",
>> "lemnele alea".. no, there is no mistake. The demonstrative feminine
>> for farness is "alea" and for
>> nearness is "astea".
>> which is the analogy here?
>
> Elementary.
let see if so.
> The feminine/neuter plural of the article
> (illae > le) and the demonstratives ends in -e. Lemnele,
> aceste lemne, acele lemne.
I have the feeling you compare here right with left. You compare
definite with undefinite for gathering this "-e", don't you? I don't
know in how far your feeling for language goes thus I feel obliged to
explain where I think is wrongleading comparation. We speak just about
feminie plural now, so take a look:
lemnele (lemn+e+le)= definite plural feminine made out of noun in
nominative "lemn" + feminine plural marker "-e" plus definite article
for feminine plural "-le": lemn+e+le. In this example it was easy since
the searcing point for us was "-le".
in the second example you use "aceste lemne" you use the _undefinite_
form of both words:
(acest+e lemn+e) : undefinite demonstr. pronoun "acest" + fem. plural
marker "-e" positioned _before_ noun in nominative "lemn" + plural
femine marker "-e".
The _definite_ form for your example is not "aceste lemne" but "lemnele
acestea". That is:
(lemn+e+le acest+e+a)
N msc. sg. noun "lemn" + plural fem marker "-e"+ definite article fem.
pl "-le" positioned before demonstt. article msc. sg. "acest" + fem.
mark "-e" plus deictic element "-a"(in fact, mark for definite). Even
the position of the demonstrativa change its place when it is definite.
So, which is the demonstrative you mean for fem. pl which ends in "-e"?
I see there an "-a" for demonstrativa, not an "-e".
> It would of course be silly to
> assign any importance to the deictic element -a, which is
> secondarily added to all genders, cases and numbers in the
> postponed demonstrative.
>
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> Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
> mcv@...
No. The "-a" is the marker for definite, this is not a deictic element.
But I guess, you got it now from the example above.
Alex
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