[tied] Re: Albanian origins and much more

*****GK: What is "Pre-Romanian" in your view? A
language that existed prior to the Latin
arrival/implantation in the Balkans, i.e. prior to 165
BC? It's ridiculous to speak of this as
"pre-Romanian". Totally anachronistic. There was no
"pre-Romanian" before the Latins came. Romanian is an
eastern Romance language. Elementary.******

No ridiculous is the fact that you skip wittingly the argument
that I show you:
Romanian ratsa and mazare (OLDER ra:tsja and ma:dzula) shows in
Romanian (in Relation with PALb a:>o transformation) an OLDER
Phonetic treatement that ALL the Latin words in Romanian and
Albanian....This is a FACT. So please take it as a fact.
Based on this belong to an elementary logic that The Pre-Romanian
Substratum existed BEFORE the latin layer....So Pre-Romanians are the
people that were fully Romanized and became Romanians.
Why is hard to understand this?

Only The Best,
Marius

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:
>
> --- alexandru_mg3 <alexandru_mg3@...> wrote:
>
> >
> > >(GK)The problem here is that you can't
> > >say with certainty that it is constituted
> > "Albanians"
> > >who contacted in this way, rather than some
> > substrate
> > >component later adopted by Albanians.
> >
> > What you said here is something like this:
> >
> > "Some Albanian wordloans (I supposed:showing
> > a:>o?) were loaned
> > Only by the Albanian Substratum (when this later one
> > was independent:
> > so it was a distinct Language) other Loans were
> > loaned (I supposed:
> > showing Lat a:>Alb.a?) by the Albanian Main Layer
> > ..."
> >
> > But with this explanation you ignore the FACT
> > that we have BOTH
> > Pre-Romanian a:>Alb.o
>
> *****GK: What is "Pre-Romanian" in your view? A
> language that existed prior to the Latin
> arrival/implantation in the Balkans, i.e. prior to 165
> BC? It's ridiculous to speak of this as
> "pre-Romanian". Totally anachronistic. There was no
> "pre-Romanian" before the Latins came. Romanian is an
> eastern Romance language. Elementary.******
>
> and Doric Grk. a:> Alb.o and
> > Pre-Romanians
> > wasn't placed nearby Greeks (based on the number of
> > Old Greek Loans
> > in Romanian)
>
> *****GK: Again what are you talking about? By the time
> Romanian began to develop as a distinct language there
> were no "Old Greeks" around to borrow from.*****
>
> >
> > So your assertion is false ... and my
> argumentation is true...
>
> *****GK: Continue the mantra for what good it'll do
> you.******
>
> > P.S. I understood that you "don't like" my
> > conclusion, but you need
> > to add arguments to sustain your opposite idea
> > otherwise these kind
> > of assertions remain only : a "wishfull thinking"...
>
> *****GK: Anyone who sees "pre-Romanians" in the
> Balkans before the Romans is in some sort of
> trance...And talk about "wishful thinking" Your theory
> about Thermidava is an excellent example thereof.*****
>
>
>
>
>
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