Hello,
In response to
Marius:
I'm no Uralist, but AFAIK the Finnish
words you asked for are "kaupunkki" (town) and "linnoitus" (fortress). Both of
them seem compound words to me or at least fairly recent
formations.
With regard to "var(os)" I
would also support an Iranic origin, as well as the idea that the initial sound
was a semivowel "w". This is supported by the fact that Serbian/Croatian not
only has "varos" (reg.) for "(small) town" or "var" as an affix in toponyms
(e.g. Varazdin, Vukovar, Bjelovar) but also Orasac=place name in Montenegro
(attested in Njegos' Gorski vijenac", I think also in Karadzic's "Pjesmarica"
but I'm not sure there.).
No, Bulgarian does not have "var" as
an affix, or anything which can be related to "var"(os). Which would support the
Hungarian etymology of "var" and "varos" in S.-Cr.
Regards,
Cristian
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Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 6:32
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Subject: Re: [tied] Rom. tsarca - Lit.
s^árka
> The members who know Hungarian would probably be
better
respondents,
> but if 'város' is not borrowed from Iranian
then it is related to
> *uras - bull/gardian of heard.
>
>
Finnish has 'uros' bull, strong man, male human or animal, also
> 'ukko'
old man
> 'Ukko' original god of thunder
>
> Peter
P
Thanks for the answer but what are the Finnic words for
'fortress'
and for 'city' ?
Thanks and Best
Regards,
Marius