Re: Alb. "vatër" ( it was (Re: [tied] Re: Albanian valle )

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 35194
Date: 2004-11-24

On 04-11-23 17:22, Patrick Ryan wrote:

> derives from PIE *h2ah1- in
> > *h2ah1-tr-; the a-colouring is from the root-initial *h2, and the
> length
> > from the root-final *h1.
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>
> <snip>
>
> On what basis is the second laryngeal designated h1 as opposed to h2
> or h3?

The Anatolian cognates are Hitt. ha:ssa 'fireplace', ha:s, acc. ha:ssan
'potash', and Pal. ha:- 'be hot'. The Palaic root shows that the second
laryngeal was not *h2 (which would have been preserved). On the other
hand, given the consistent a-coloration of the root vowel (in those
branches that reflect the difference), at least one of the laryngeals
must be *h2. I've seen the 'burn' root reconstructed as *h2eh1/3(s)-. My
own preference for *h1 is motivated by the total absence of any
o-coloured forms, though admittedly we do not really know which
colouring effect gets the upper hand when *h2 and *h3 are adjacent to
the same vowel.

Piotr