Re: Albanian valle 'circular dance' - Proto-Albanian form?

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PALB wa -> Rom. ua/uã > uo > o
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For Romanian derivation ua/uã > uo > o see also:

Rosetti derivation of non-accented form Rom. '*unã' of Latin 'una' :

"
o > uo > *uã [> unã]
(where 'uo' is attested in Cod. Voronotean ed. Sbiera at:
69,9;173,6;152,9;167,9)
"
(ILR IV-V-VI pag. 49)

My Note: this lost of n in such conditions is a singular case in
Romanian. However we have to take into account also that the
Aromanian form is 'unã'.

Only the Best,
marius


P.S.: I think that Rosetti's name should increase the credibility at
least for the second part of my proposed derivation :

PAlb *wa > Alb. va <-> Rom. *ua/uã > uo > o
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( Alb.'valle' 'circular dance' <->Rom. 'hora' 'id.'
Alb.'vallë' 'interg. perhaps?'<->Rom. 'oare' 'id.' )

'unbased and unheralded by none' until now.




--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@...>
wrote:

>
> Hello Abdullah,
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> "I think that Bulg. <horo> and Rom. <hora> are Greek loans from

<ho

> khoros> 'dance', so I can't see any problem about its origin."
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> An intervocalic -kh- is never lost in Romanian in any period

that

> I know from any source language that I know: Latin, Slavic and its
> derived languages, Greek, Turkish, Hungarian...).
> Also (but I admit that I don't have deep Slavic knowledge) as I
> know such a lost is not common in Slavic language either.
>
> If you know similar examples in Bulgarian or Romanian indicating
> such a lost as you proposed here please post them.
>
> As regarding my proposal:
> Rom. 'hora' - Alb. 'valle' - PAlb *walwo:- (?)
>
> in which we have:
> PAlb. wa -> Rom. ua/uã > uo > o <-> Alb. va/vë
>
> I already posted the following similarities for the equation

above:

>
> Rom. 'oare' 'interg. perhaps?' - Alb. vallë 'id.'
> Rom. 'orb' 'blind' (reg.'uãrb') - Alb. vërbër 'id.' (Lat.

orbus)

>
> (and I could add others too)
>
> In my opinion the 3 pairs above represent solid arguments
> regarding my proposal.
>
> Only the Best,
> marius
>
>
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Abdullah Konushevci"
> <a_konushevci@...> wrote:
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3"
> > <alexandru_mg3@...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello Abdullah,
> > > I think that Alb. <valle> 'circular dance' and Romanian
> > > <hora> 'id.' is one and the same word having a Proto Albanian
> > > (Dacian?) form a PAlb. *walwo:-/*walo:- (I'm not sure of it,

from

> > > here my question on Cybalist) from Pokorny root PIE *uel-7 'to
> > round'.
> > >
> > > Bulgarian 'horo' cannot be considered as source of
> > Romanian 'hora',
> > > because the root 'uel-7' is obvious for Rom. 'hora'
> > either 'circular
> > > dance' (see at http://dexonline.ro/search.php?

cuv=hora&source=),

> > and
> > > Albanian form is also compatible (in fact is exactly the same
> > related
> > > to its meaning with the Romanian one).
> > ************
> > I think that Bulg. <horo> and Rom. <hora> are Greek loans from

<ho

> > khoros> 'dance', so I can't see any problem about its origin.
> >
> > Konushevci