Re: Alb. aj possible origins?

From: alexandru_mg3
Message: 35110
Date: 2004-11-13

Hello All,
In order not to create confusion 'aj' in the row below here is the
eng. 'bite':
aj 'bite' < Old Alb al'i(u) < Lat. alium (etymology indicated
by Meyer)

Best Regards,
Marius


--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@...>
wrote:
>
>
> Hello All,
> I want to submit a point of discussion :
> what origin could have in PAlb and in OldAlb, today Albanian
Cluster -
> aj inside a word (I mean exactly -aj not -ëj )
>
> Based on 'lajthi' and 'shaj' 2 words discussed here,
> the possible sources in OldAlb could be *auj and *uaj and also *auaj
>
> Now these vocalic clusters of three or more vowels should
arrive
> for an original cluster in PAlb where we have more than only
vowels :
>
> Alb -aj < OldAlb *-auj < *-aunj < PAlb *-aunj
> < *-aunj < PAlb *-adunj
> Alb -aj < OldAlb *-uaj < *-uanj < PAlb *-uanj
> < *-uanj < PAlb *-udanj
> Alb -aj < OldAlb *-auaj < *-auanj < PAlb *-aduanj
> < *-auanj < PAlb *-audanj
>
>
> Some examples : Old Alb. PAlb.
> Alb. lajthi 'hazel nut' < *l.uanj.thi < *l.uanj.thi < *(a)
l.uanj.tsja
> Alb. shaj 'to insult' < *sh.aunj < *sh.aunj.a <
*s.adunj.a
> Alb. laj 'to wash' < l.aun < *l.aunj.a < l.aunj.a
> Alb. qaj 'to cry' < kl.aunj < *kl.aunj.a < k(e)l.aunj.a
>
> Alb. shajtoj < Lat. sagittare?
>
> Alb. gjaj 'to resemble' < ?
> Alb. maj 'to fatten' < ?
> Alb. mbaj 'to carry' < ?
> Alb. ndaj 'towards' < ?
> Alb. ndaj 'to cut' < ?
> Alb. ngaj 'to run' < ?
>
>
> Conclusion:
> Seems that we need together an 'a', an 'u/w' and an 'j' to can
> have 'aj' and not 'ëj' or something else in all these forms.
>
>
> More recent sources are :
> Alb. -ajk < OldAlb. -alk < PAlb -alk
> ----------------------------------------
> Ex: ajkë < OldAlb. alkë < PAlb -alka
>
> Alb. -ajg < OldAlb. -alg < PAlb -alg
> ----------------------------------------
> bajgë < OldAlb. balgë < PAlb *balega
>
> But not : jt < lt ( balta remain balta
> naltë(var.lartë) remain naltë)
> so there is no reason to say that we can have also
> jth < lth
>
>
> More recent we have also:
> Alb aj < Old Alb al'i < PAlb ali
> -------------------------------------------
> Ex: aj < Old Alb al'i(u) < Lat. alium
> faj < Old Ald fal'j(a) < Lat. *fallia
>
>
> Any feedback?
>
>
> Best Regards,
> marius