From: Abdullah Konushevci
Message: 34881
Date: 2004-10-28
>I forgott to add also Alb. <log> 'field of battle', pl. <logje>,
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...>
> wrote:
> > At 10:36:00 AM on Thursday, October 28, 2004, Daniel J.
> > Milton wrote:
> >
> > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "A." <xthanex@...> wrote:
> >
> > >> While I am here pondering the roots of various terms, can
> > >> anyone provide the etymology of the Norse term "orlog"?
> >
> > Properly <ørlo,g> 'fate', formally a plural of <ørlag>,
> > though I don't know that the latter actually occurs. There
> > seems to be an OE cognate <orlæg> 'fate'.
> >
> > > 'Log' is the Old Norse for "laws" (and indeed source of
> > > the English word).
> >
> > I believe that <ør-> is from *uz- 'from, out of'; I've seen
> > the word etymologized as *uzlagjan 'that which is laid out'.
> > That would make the second element related to <lo,g>
> > 'law(s)', but not identical. (OE <lagu> 'law' would seem to
> > be a borrowing of an older singular *lagu rather than of
> > <lo,g> itself.)
> >
> > > I assume 'or' equals the German 'ur' "primitive", but this
> > > just my guess pending an authoritative answer.
> >
> > German <ur-> is indeed also from *uz-, both in this sense
> > and in the privative sense seen in OHG <urtriuwi> 'treulos';
> > if I'm not mistaken, the verbal prefix <er-> is the weak
> > form of the same element.
> >
> > Brian
> ************
> According to Bjovrand-Lindeman (VAEO, Oslo, 2000, pp. 690-691)
> <orlog> 'kamp, krig' (war), <orlogsskip> 'war ship'.
> Primary form IEW (687) is PIE *lewgh- in got. liugos. Zero-grade
> form yielded ketl. *lug-yo-n > OIr lugae, a verbal substantive of
> verb <tongid> 'swear'.
>
> Konushevci