Re: [tied] Re: The role of analogy, alliteration and sandhi in coun

From: Miguel Carrasquer
Message: 34731
Date: 2004-10-17

On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:09:40 +0200, alex
<alxmoeller@...> wrote:

>Yes. And how I once said, coincidentaly (!)we have these word in Romanian
>with plain velar.
>ghiu= viu= alive
>ghino= vino= come
>
>(!) = the usual explanation is not the word "coincidentally" but
>"palatalisation" of "fricativ". So due this "palatalisation" (alteration of
>the sound, my note here) we got a ... plain velar. Who wants to accept a
>such result specialy when the IE roots have had there an "g"?

Nonsense. There never was no *g in Mold. ghine = Rom. bine
< Lat. bene < PIE *dwene:. This is merely a general
soundlaw which affects palatalized /p'/ and /b'/, turning
them into /t'/ ~ /k'/ and /d'/ ~ /g'/. The same happens
with /p'/ in Aromanian (pectu > pieptu -> k'eptu). It
follows naturally from the fact that labials and
palatalization, for obvious reasons, do not combine well:
either palatalization is given up, or the sound shifts to
the palatal area.

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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
mcv@...