Re: [tied] numbers {was: Venus}

From: Sean Whalen
Message: 34431
Date: 2004-10-04

--- loreto bagio <bagoven20@...> wrote:

>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Sean Whalen
> <stlatos@...> wrote:
> >
> > I doubt that nine and new are related in PIE,
> > anyway. In even the oldest known Greek, for
> example,
> > the words are ennewa and newos (e- in ennewa
> probably
> > indicating it began in a "laryngeal").
> >
>
> Welcome to the game. How about 'novo'?
> Sorry to the moderators but you see everything here
> is such.
>
> And to continue please see that the japanese 'hachi'
> eight has near
> forms in IE. and so is the old Japanese for nine. At
> some rate ten
> is possible too.

Each daughter language has different rules changing
it from the mother over time. Latin and most other
languages deleted syllabic "laryngeals" at the
beginning of a word. Greek did not, creating
contrasts such as dens and odous (tooth), nomen and
onyma (name), ster and aste:r (star), etc.

The current pronunciation of Japanese shouldn't be
used to make comparisons with other language families.
Only the oldest known (or reconstructed) forms can
help show relationships due to common ancestry. As
far as I know, hachi was pronounced fati fairly
recently, much too late to have a common origin with
okto:


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