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cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...>
wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Abdullah Konushevci" <a_konushevci@...>
> To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 10:51 PM
> Subject: [tied] Re: Latin [homo] from PIE *dhgho_mon- = Earth
dweller?
>
>
>
> > As far as we know, Latin <homo, -inis> is derived from *(dh)
g^hom-on-
> > 'earthling'. So, from suffixed o-grade form of PIE root *dhg^hem-
> > 'earth' and <humus> 'earth' of suffixed o-grade form *(dh)g^hom-
o-,
> > where -s is nominative singular ending. Reduced lengthened o-
grade
> > form yields in Albanian <dhé> 'earh' (<*(dh)g^ho:-).
> > To my view, suffix -on is also present in *wekWo:m teks-on 'words
> > weaver', my true vocation.
>
> Archaic Latin hemo:, as well as ne:mo: < *ne hemo: show the
original
> vocalism in Latin (/e/ rather than /o/). But Latin /eN/ may go
back to a
> syllabic nasal, not necessarily to an IE e-grade. The most likely
protoform
> for all the various cognates of <homo:> (including OE guman- and
Lith.
> z^mon-) is *g^Hm.(-h)on-.
[AK]
I know that syllabic /*m./ yields in Latin /em/, but, in compound,
such is ne:mo, why not we have reduction of ne homo > ne:mo.
If the second element is the Hoffmann suffix
> *-h(3?)on-, it's genetically different from the *-on- of *ték^þ-on-
, which
> is quite probably a reduced variant of the participial suffix *-(o)
nt-. For
> one thing, *g^Hm.-(h)on- is derived from a noun ('earth'), but
*ték^þ-on-
> from a verb ('to fashion')!
[AK]
Taking a look in Watkins dictionary, I find out these words with
suffix on, usuallu added to the neuter names, variant ona:, added
to feminine one, regardless the fact if the root is a verb,
adjective or the noun.
*ak^- sharp
*ak-on -, independently created in: a. awn, from Old Norse ögn, ear
of grain, and Old English agen, ear of grain, from Germanic *agan ;
and b. paragon, from Greek akon , whetstone.
*deru/dreu- `tree' Reduplicated form *der-drew-, dissimilated with
suffix in *der-drew-on. dendro-, dendron; philodendron,
rhododendron, from Greek dendron, tree.
*dher- `to hold firmly, support'
Suffixed zero-grade form *dhr-ono-. throne, from Greek thronos,
seat, throne (< "support")
*leu- `to loosen, divide, cut apart'
1a. lorn, losel, from Old English -l osan, to lose; b. (i) forlorn,
from Old English forl osan, to forfeit, lose; (ii) forlorn hope,
from Dutch verliezen (past participle verloren), to lose. Both (i)
and (ii) from Germanic *fer-leusan, *far-leusan (*fer-, *far-,
prefix denoting rejection or exclusion; see per1). Both a and b from
Germanic *leusan, with Old English and Dutch past participle loren
from Germanic *luzana-, from Indo-European suffixed zero-grade form
*lus-ono
*per- `to lead, pass over'
Suffixed form *per-on -. peroneal, from Greek peron , pin of a
brooch, buckle (< "that which pierces through").
*swa:d- `sweet, pleasant'
Suffixed form *sw d-on . hedonic, hedonism, from Greek h don ,
pleasure
*teuta `tribe'
Suffixed form *teut-ono:s, "they of the tribe." Teuton, from Latin
Teut n , the Teutons, borrowed via Celtic from Germanic tribal name
*theudan z
*wet- `to blow, inspire'
*wed-ono- `raging, mad' > Votan
> Piotr
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Until we are talking about PIE root *tek^s-, I like to point out one
rule or soundlaw, noticed also by Beekes *sl- > ll:
1. *kel- `to stick, sting'. O-grade form *kol-s > Alb. <kall-
i> `ear, spike, cob' (cf. Sl. klasu < kal-s, Eng. Holly, Pokorny,
kel-2)
2. *sleiH- `bluish' > Alb. Tosk <dë- +lli>, Geg <gë-lli> `juniper',
për-sh-kë-lli-nj `to smear', probably denominal of <kë-lli> `slop,
dirty water' (cf. Eng. sloe, Lat. livere `to be bluish', Sl. ljiva,
ljivovica from suffixed zero-grade form *sli-wa:, etc.). I believe
that also Slavic <glogU> 'hawthorn, thorn-apple' could easy be
explained through this Albanian soundlaw.
3. *H1usl- > Alb. yll `star' (Beeks, rule 21)
4. *tek^s-la: > sh-tjellë `reel, swirl, whirpool, eddy, labor', but
<shtjelloj> `to explicate, develop, enlarge'
Konushevci