Re: IE lexical accent

From: tgpedersen
Message: 33590
Date: 2004-07-23

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...>
wrote:
> At 3:35:21 PM on Thursday, July 22, 2004,
> enlil@... wrote:
>
> > Richard:
>
> >> Do not English <twelfths> and <sixths> contain absurd
> >> strings? And Jens has heard [ptkllI] in English.
>
> > As a native North American English speaker I've never
> > heard such a thing nor would I expect to since it
> > completely violates known phonotactics of our language.
> > English doesn't have five consonant clusters like this. Am
> > I seeing that correctly, double "l"??
>
> I've definitely heard [ptk:lI], and I can believe [ptkllI]
> as a slightly more careful(!) version. You're relatively
> unlikely to hear either in North America, however.
>

I think I was the one who heard it, in BBC English. I'm willing to
modify my claim to [ptIkl.lI] (with syllabic /l/) But who knows what
a Czech might hear?

Torsten