Re: [tied] Etymology of Gr. SkutHe:s 'Scythian'

Yes, I know, it's thought to be connected to "Mat-Gugu", but I don't
understand how you are connecting this Semitic word etymologically
with Skythe:s and with the Sanskrit Guha? Ashkenaz would be the
Biblical equivalent here, equated with the Assyrian Ashkuza (the
Scythians.)

-Michael


--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Joao Simoes Lopes Filho"
<josimo70@...> wrote:

> "Gog, king of Magog" is usually associated to cites and to Greek
> Gyges.
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Smith"
> <mytoyneighborhood@...> wrote:
> > Joao, you mention Gog, but how does this Biblical term fit in

here?

> >
> > -Michael
> >
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Joao Simoes Lopes Filho"
> > <josimo70@...> wrote:
> > > How about SKYTHE:S < *SKHUTHE: < *(Z)gHug(W)He:- or (Z)gHug^H-,
> cf.
> > > Gog, and Sanskir Guha "name of a forest tribe and a savage
> hunter
> > > mentioned at Mahabharata". Perhaps Akkadian azguza fits in it.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh <gknysh@...>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- Sergejus Tarasovas <S.Tarasovas@...> wrote:
> > > > > > From: Āąäčģ Ļīķąš˙äīā
> > > > > [mailto:ponaryad@...]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I do not know if Gr. skutHe:s is really connected
> > > > > with Old
> > > > > > Pers. saka-, but in Old Persian inscriptions (also
> > > > > in
> > > > > > Akkadian and Elamite versions) a form _skudra_ is
> > > > > present
> > > > > ...
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, I know.
> > > > >
> > > > > >also in Akkadian
> > > > >
> > > > > But cf. Akk. as^guzai, is^kuzai 'Scythians'.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Phonetically Skudra is much closer to Skuthe:s
> > > > > > than Saka, isn't it?
> > > > >
> > > > > But sku:ca- (or sku:ça-) would look like a better
> > > > > candidate (if it really exists). Why, for one, would
> > > > > the Greeks just not render the name as *Skudrai? On
> > > > > the other hand, /tH/ looks like a probable
> > > > > substitution for a foreign s(h)ibilant affricate.
> > > >
> > > > *****GK: Way back in 1872 V. Yurgevich had argued that
> > > > "Borysthenes" and "Danapris" designated the same "
> > > > river+river" geographical point, with transposition of
> > > > parts and shifted sounds. Thus "Dana-pris" =
> > > > (tr.)"Thenes-borys" (one of those situations where a
> > > > river was known by different names at different
> > > > points, here both "Dana" or something like in the
> > > > south and "Borys" or something like it further north.
> > > > The point being that Greek "tH" could be the
> > > > equivalent of non Greek "d" (Greek "t" obviously
> > > > could: cf. Tanais). If Yurgevich was right, then
> > > > perhaps the "tH" in Skuthes might be the equivalent of
> > > > a "d" pointing to "Skud-" Would this lead us to
> > > > Skudra? Or to something else? In any caes the meaning
> > > > of the postulated "Skud**" is sometimes given as
> > > > "archer", "bowman". Does this sound plausible?******
> > > >
> > > >
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