Re: Samus -> Zomus : Albanian transformation?

From: tolgs001
Message: 32661
Date: 2004-05-16

> As regarding Buzau there is no attested form 'Buzau'. We have ONLY
>an attested Greek form 'Museos' (if I remember well the spelling).

I myself read on several occasions: either "Mpuzeos" or
"Mpuzaios" ("mp" [b]).

> Even if 'dzare' is not from Sl. 'zarja', the conservation of 'dz'
>in Romanian dialects until sec. XVI-XVII in parallel with the new
>loaned 'zV-words', shows us with a great probability that 'dz' was
>still active around 700AD or even later.

The conservation of dz is... alive and kicking in the
Daco-Romanian dialect, namely in the subdialects of the
northernmost provinces: Maramuresh to the West and Northern
Moldova (called by the Austrians Bucovina in the 18th c.).
Virtually only in cases where [d] becomes [z]: in these
provinces the transformation freezes into a [dz]. And
late medieval writings suggest that these [dz] were more
spread. (e.g. a dzîce; Dumnedzãu)

> This wave arrive in N-W Romania around 650-700 AD
>where they found a semi-romanized Albanoid population

What's the "albanoid" idea? A rest of Dacian-Carpian
population mixed with rests of Latinophone population?

> At the same times some Slavic tribes, less important
>regarding their number that the Slavic tribes that arrived
>in Balkans,

I'd say it depends on the phase. For, judging from the
place names and hydronyms throughout Transylvania, the
Slavic presence there must've been overwhelming: it has
left substancial traces in both languages, Hungarian
and Romanian, as far as toponyms and hydronyms are
concerned.

George