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cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@...>
wrote:
>
> Abdullah, could you help me here with the origin of 'esh'
> termination in Albanian.
> Maybe when the Hungarians arrived, the form was
> already 'Zomesh' and not 'Zomush' but the name has
been "Latinized'
> with the Latin ending '-us' in the transcription of Hungarian Latin
> Chronicle.
>
> 6.5 The Hungarian attested 'Zomus' shows also that when the
> Hungarians learned the river name (around 900AC) :
>
> a. the Albanoid pronunciation was more relevant than the
Romance
> one.
> b. or that the Hungarians loans an 'sV' like an 'zV'.
>
> I'm not sure which which of the points a) or b) are more
> probable.
>
> In any case this is the more likely scenario that I could
found
> to explain 'Samus->Zomus' and also the Romanian "Somesh'
>
> I appreciate any help to can clarify this issue.
>
> Best Regards,
> marius alexandru
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Dear Marius,
Albanian suffix -esh is very common in place names: Bradash-esh, Bren-
esh, Bulç-esh, Çikall-esh, Godol-esh, Kat-esh, Kotod-esh, Martan-esh,
Petr-esh, Zgërdh-esh. Also Albanian national name Geg <Arbn-esh>,
Tosk <Arbër-esh>.
According to N. Jokl, suffix -esh in <Arbn-esh> has its origin in
Latin -e(n)sis (cf. Albanensis). He adds that change /s/ > /sh/
testifies that this suffix is old, from Latin times.
To my view, as testifies different Illyrian tribes names, like
Oseriat-es, Dalmat-es, Labeat-es, etc., lake name Lychnid-es,
personal name Pinn-es, it can also be inherited from Illyrian
language. I guess that plural ending -es is used as expressive one,
like plural ending -at in Progon-at, Lazar-at, Fil-at; or suffix -ini
in Illyrian place names: Ulc-ini-um, Rhiz-ini-on, Os-ini-um as are
used Greek names of antiquity <Ai Athenai>, <Ai Thermopulai>, <Ai
Thebai>, etc.
Otherweise, river names, usually ended in Illyrian in -us: Margus
(today Morava), Pingus (today Bistritza), Dravus (today Drava),
Timochus (today Timok), etc.
Konushevci