[tied] Re: Gland

I guess that Alb. <glëndërë/gâner/gjëndër> 'gland', Alb.
<lenë/lende> 'acorn', also <landë/lëndë> 'wood, matter, timber'
substance', Rom. <ghindã> 'acorn' all points out to PIE *lendh- 'open
land, land, linden' and, maybe, to compound *o:g-*lendh 'the fruit of
land/wood' through reduction of frist element of compound to /g/.
In this case Occam's Razor will not by broken by any speculation,
because we will have straighforword normal derivation as in Albanian,
as in Romanian. As far as I know, Alb. <lândë/lëndë> 'wood' is
normally explained from *lendh-.
I pray to be wrong, for NEC HERCULES CONTRA DUOS.

Konushevci

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...> wrote:
> On Wed, 12 May 2004 00:10:02 +0200, alex
> <alxmoeller@...> wrote:
>
> >Assuming the gl > ghi' before a >â then we have:
> >glánda > ghéanda ( conform glacia > gheatsa )
> >this form should have remained the same as "geana"< *ginna, with no
> >further transformation except final "a" > "ã"
> >
> >assuming the a > â before gl > ghi then we have:
> >glánda > *glânda ( with stress on â, cff. rulles stressed a > â
before
> >nC)
> >*glânda > ghiândã; the "â" was absoerbed by "i" since i-â-n is
almost
> >i-0-n, thus > in
> >In this manner we will have an nice explanable glanda > ghindã
> >That will explain the Albanian "glën-" as well loaned in a time
where
> >the Romanian word was *glân-" already.
>
> The relative order of gl- > gj- vs. a > â really doesn't
> matter. As long as they are both before the j-umlaut (as
> they are).
>
> As a matter of fact the order of the soundlaws was probably:
>
> 1) gl- > gl^- (this is shared by Romanian with Italian, and
> was over before the Slavic loanwords, such as clopot).
> 2) an > ân (shared by all Romanian dialects, and affecting
> part of the Slavic borrowings: stãpân, but ranã).
> 3) -a > -ã (all dialects)
> 4) gl^- > gj- (not in Aromanian)
> 5) jâ > i (not in Aromanian?).
>
> [/glánda/ > /gl^anda/ > /gl^ïnda/ > /gl^ïnd&/ > /gjïnd&/ >
> /gind&/ = ghindã]
>
> As to *glacia, the ordering of the rules is the same:
>
> 1) kj > c (shared with all of Romance)
> 2) gl- > gl^-
> 3) -a > -ã
> 3) gl^- > gj-
> 4) ja > e (not in Aromanian: kl^ae, not cheie "key")
>
> [/glakja/ > /glaca/ > /gl^aca/ > /gl^ac&/ > /gjac&/ > /gec&/
> = ghetz-]
>
> This is the plural form (ghetzuri). Singular gheatzã is, I
> suppose, analogical after ceatzã, cetzuri (< caecia) and
> other words with etymological ea ~ e "Ablaut".
>
>
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