Re: [tied] The disappearance of *-s -- The saga continues

From: elmeras2000
Message: 32155
Date: 2004-04-21

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Mate Kapovic" <mkapovic@...>
wrote:
> > Some of the verbs however entered the mobile type for some
reason. I can
> > see only the monosyllabic aorist as the causal factor. Those
that retained
> > the phonetically regular falling tone (circumflex) of the
monosyllabic
> > forms of the aorist, joined the mobile type and so acquired the
forms you
> > mention.

> Not very likely. You are supposing that monosyllables (those which
were not
> randomly regularised) influenced randomly other, polysyllabic
verbs and then
> even l-participle? This is highly unlikely especially if one has
knowledge
> of a whole system.

Well, that is already part of the theory. The two are pragmatically
associated as means of expressing the past.

> Shift such as *do``govoril7 - *dogovori:la' has it's
> paralels in other parts of the system. It can hardly be analogical
after
> aorist as you put it...

It is simply the way mobility works (between the extremes). It can
be analogical on any mobile form that qualifies.

> Anyway, I think that attestions of Slavic lgs are definitely more
important
> for the reconstruction of ProtoSlavic than what we think should
happen with
> it if we derive it from PIE.

The art is to bridge the gap. This was done for the first time by
Illic^-Svityc^ and Dybo who added the last missing link explaining
type b. Now we can observe full continuity.

Jens