Re: [tied] Snorri on "Odin's journey"

--- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
It seems

> the
> > types Almgren
> > 67 and 68 (with subtypes) are the most, and
> Kostrewski
> > type M and N
> > (with subtypes) the least connected with
> inhumation,
> > so I believe if
> > any type of fibula is connected with an intrusive
> > Sarmatian element,
> > it should be A67/A68.
> >
> > GK: Ukrainian archaeologists consider Almgren

A67/A68

> to
> > be "western type" fibulae (cf. e.g. V.D.Baran,
> ed.,
> > "The 'pre-statehood' Slavs of southeastern
> Europe"[in
> > Russ.],1990, pp. 76-79) and contrast them with
> fibulae
> > of local production in Sarmatian,
> Scytho-Sarmatian,
> > Zarubinian and other East European cultures.
>
>(TP) Do they ascribe these "western type" fibulae to

any

> particular
> ethnos?

*****GK: Not Baran. Just "western type" along with
something he calls the "Nertomarus" type fibula. He is
citing a 1935 Polish-language study of Smizsko.
Perhaps Almgren himself might be consulted here. I
don't have a copy: O. Almgren, Studien ueber
nordeuropaeische fibelformen, Leipzig 1923.*****

>
>
>
> (TP)What would you say is characteristic of the

finds of

> those Sarmatian
> groups (particularly of those "Asgard" and Vanaland"
> areas?).

*****GK: Which of the sites you mention earlier are
considered Sarmatian? (I had asked you this earlier).
Perhaps you could start with a description of their
inventory, incl. fibulae. And then have a look at the
work of Russian archaeologists on the gravesites
between Don and Volga for the period in question. That
would involve principally "Aorsan" and "Sirakian"
graves. One item to look for would be
polychromic-style fibulae, which Bosporan masters
manufactured for the Sarmatian market. Objects with
"tamga" markers are also useful indicators.******

>
>
> And have the fibulae type Kostrzewski var M and
> N been linked
> with any particular ethnos?

*****GK: I don't know. Baran notes that many fibulae
of the "Latenized" cultures (this includes Przeworsk
and Oksywie) are of an "inter-regional"
character.*****

>
> Torsten
>
>
>

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