Re[2]: [tied] Re: Arminius/Hermann

From: Brian M. Scott
Message: 31980
Date: 2004-04-17

At 1:02:16 PM on Saturday, April 17, 2004, ND wrote:

>> For England, Kuhn finds very few <-sta:n> names before
>> 800. Later he finds an increasing number, among them
>> (Gray Birch's Cartularium Saxonicum doc. 365) one
>> <Tur-sta:n>.

> Maybe we should keep in mind that Torstein does occur in
> Normandy as well.

With examples from the late 10th c. onward. From c.1030
<Turstinus> becomes the usual form, and during the course of
the 12th century <Tustinus>.

In pre-Conquest England there are a few examples of
Anglo-Scandinavian hybrids in which <-sta:n> has replaced
OWN <-steinn> or OEN <-ste:n>; after the Conquest Norman
<Turstin>-like forms are common. There doesn't appear to be
a genuine OE cognate; the <Turstanus> in the forged charter
dated 819 (the one mentioned above) is itself reason for
suspicion.

Brian