Re: [tied] Whence Grimm?

--- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh
> <gknysh@...> wrote:
> >
> > --- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
> > > > GK: The argument seems to run thus (there are
> > > > many sources for it; I have relied on the more
> > > recent
> > > > Polish, Russian, and Ukrainian literature):
> > > >
> > > > The source of Germanicism in the east is the
> area
> > > of
> > > > the Jastorf culture which existed in North
> Germany
> > > and
> > > > Southern Scandinavia from the mid-first
> millennium
> > > BC.
> > >
> > > (T)Correction: From Thuringia to Jutland and
> Fyn.
> > Not
> > > Sj�lland. Not the
> > > Scandinavian peninsula.
> >
> > GK: Shchukin and Kokowski consider Denmark to
> be
> > "southern Scandinavia".
> > >
>
> Shchukin and Kokowski should buy a map. For your
> information, in case
> you don't have one either, the country of Denmark
> today is made up of
> the peninsula of Jutland, the islands of Fyn,
> Sj�lland and the "South
> Sea Islands" Lolland and Falster plus numerous
> lesser islands. Up to
> 1658 the now southern Swedish provinces of Halland,
> Scania and
> Blekinge were part of Denmark too. All available
> maps of the Jastorf
> culture area show it to include within the present
> borders of Denmark
> only the areas west of the Great Belt strait, ie
> Jutland and Fyn.
> Calling that area "Denmark" or even "Southern
> Scandinavia" is sheer
> ignorance.

*****GK: Denmark is counted among the "Scandinavian
countries" in popular contemporary geographical usage.
Jutland is a part of Denmark. Denmark is the southern
area of "Scandinavia" in the above sense. There is no
difficulty in understanding what Shchukin, Kokowski et
al. mean. If you don't like this, that's your
problem,which, as usual, is quite independent of the
issue being discussed.******


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