[tied] Re: Syncope

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, enlil@... wrote:

>
> Jens:
> > Your Syncope *is* quantitative ablaut under a partly new name.
> > Surely *-mn cannot be generated before the process that led to

zero-

> > grade had occurred.
>
> Whoops, one more thing that I notice with your response.
> Quantitative ablaut can certainly occur before Syncope but
> we'd be speaking of *-m'n versus *-men and of "reduced"
> syllables rather than "zeroed".

Reduction and zero are stages in the same process. Its stages have
not been the issue here. It matters in my old account of nominative
segments like *´-mo:n from unaccented *´-men-s which is first
reduced to (something like)*´-mon-s and only then lengthened to
(something like) *´-mo:ns, when IE (something like) *´-mo:n.

> So again, Syncope and Ablaut are two different concepts with
> two different timeframes. The timeframe of quantitative
> ablaut, conceivably stretching a millenium, is much larger
> than the more momentary timeframe of Syncope.

I do not think anything in our discussion is affected by the
introduction of these details (which I have been accepting all
along, by the way).

Jens