Re: [tied] Re: Andere

From: Miguel Carrasquer
Message: 31534
Date: 2004-03-24

On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 20:06:26 +0000, CG <sonno3@...>
wrote:

>I forgot to add that some see Basque andere ("woman") as a loan from
>Celtic, as opposed to the various related Celtic words being derived
>from Basque. See Xavier Delamarre's Dictionnaire de la langue
>gauloise (under the entry for anderos).

The masculine equivalent of feminine Andere in the
Aquitanian onomastic material seems to be Andoss- (= Basque
*andotz or *andots). Gorrochategui thinks of a connection
with the Basque element -ots in ordots/ordotz "boar; male
animal" and bildots "lamb". But there is nothing in Basque
corresponding to a feminine suffix -ere, and the status of
-ots as a suffix is somewhat compromised by the fact that
there are no simplex forms *ord- ("pig" is urde, urdan-) or
*bild-.

On the other hand, if Andoss- were a loan from Celtic, one
might imagine Aq. -oss = Bq. -otz < Celtic -os. Does a
Gaulish word *andos exist? Was the intensive prefix and-
ever nominalized in Celtic (I'm thinking here also of Basque
(h)andi "big")?


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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
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