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cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Joao S. Lopes" <josimo70@...>
wrote:
> Interesting. But who were this Vasconic pre-Greek people?
> And *salam-, is there another examples of it as meaning water?
Salamis/Salamina, maybe? Salmoneus, Salmidessos?
>
This is Vennemann's list
ON so,l (< *salu) "sea"
so,l (a kind of algae)
So,lsi, So,lvi (names of seakings)
PGmc *salwa "dark"
OE salu "dark, husky"
E sallow
ON so,lr "dirty, pale"
OHG salo, gen salwes "dark, black, dirty"
Gal sal "wet dirt, ear-wax"
Cymr. halawg "soiled, stained"
Lat. salum, -i: n. "tossing of the waves, open sea, high sea"
MIr sa: gen. saile "sea"
Lat. sali:va, vae f. "spittle, saliva"
Lat, salmo:, salmo:nis m. "salmon",
borrowed into
English as salmon
German as Salm
Lat. salar, -aris m. "trout"
Lat. salpa, -ae f. (a kind of stock.fish);
Greek sálpe: f. (a sea fish)
Lat. salacia f. (a fish)
Lat. salix, salicis f,
OE sealh,
OHG salaha,
G Salweide,
ON selja,
MIr sail, gen. sailech,
Cymr. helygen "willow-tree"
Greek sálos m. "tossing of the waves of the sea, surge",
also "anchoring place, roadstead (as opposed to a protected harbour)"
Greek saleúo: "roll (like a ship)"
Greek sálx, sálakos" m. "coarse sieve of miners"
plus the IE word for salt etc
Greek háls m. "salt", f. "sea"
etc
In other cases, like the British Solent, he derives it from Semitic
s-l-´, pl. s-l-m "cliff". Personally, I'd add the old name for
Sjælland, Selund. Coming from the south, you do pass some cliff at
the Stevns peninsula.
Further he quotes Melena(1985) for the reconstruction *Salamant- for
the Spanish mountain Jalama, in Roman times Salama, with the intended
meaning "rico in arroyos", more precisely "abundante in aguas". *sal-
occurs often Old European waternames, from the Iberian Peninsula to
the British Isles and from Dalmatia to Lithuania.
Apparently those Vasconic pre-Greeks were all over the place.
Torsten