Re: [tied] Re: Andere

Interesting. But who were this Vasconic pre-Greek people?

And *salam-, is there another examples of it as meaning water? Salamis/Salamina, maybe? Salmoneus, Salmidessos?

tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <piotr.gasiorowski@...> wrote: > 17-03-2004 11:04, loreto bagio wrote: > > > > Quite strange. How can it be explained in the light of Gk andr-, man > > or as it is used in the compound word androgyny 'male'? > > As Basque and(e)re means 'lady, madam', and apparently meant the same > thing already in Aquitanian, it's history has nothing to do with the > history of Greek ane:r (oblique stem andr- < *anr-), which comes from > PIE *h2ne:r 'man, male human being'. > Vennemann explicitly distinguishes between reflexes of PIE *h2ne:r- and and Vasconic *andere-. But he's not adverse to claim loans from Vasconic into Greek, eg salamander < *salam+*andra "water lady", cf Basque ur-andra "water lady" ie "salamander". Torsten

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