[tied] Re: Late Proto Albanian *3 /dz/ = Early Proto Romanian *3 /

From: m_iacomi
Message: 30635
Date: 2004-02-04

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski wrote:

> 03-02-04 21:40, alex wrote:
>
>> I am sorry to contradict you Piotr, but there is no *drEktu in
>> Proto-Balkan Romance. At least not in the one people assume gave
>> Romanian. Why I say that? Because in Old Romanian there is stil
>> used the forms "dãrept" and "dãreptate". The syncope of "ã" is
>> recent, very recent, 200 years maybe.
>
> If so, then <dãrept> is simply the regular reflex of unsyncopated
> *derEktu-.

If so. Actually it is not quite like that. Attested old Romanian
forms are "drept(u)", "derept(u)" and "dirept(u)" (Moldavia) &
variants, with syncope and without. "dãrept" must be some invention
based on Southern DR well-known late features (like in "dã", "pã"
instead of "de", "pe").

> Vulgar Latin had both, and the syncope could have happened at
> any stage.

I can think at these forms as having been used simultaneously for
a long time (as suggested by ancient texts), since the syncope did
not affect semantics (the word being understood the same with or
without it).
Of course, this is rather a detail.

Regards,
Marius Iacomi