[tied] Re: Late Proto Albanian *3 /dz/ = Early Proto Romanian *3 /

From: Abdullah Konushevci
Message: 30627
Date: 2004-02-04

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...> wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 21:33:14 +0100, Piotr Gasiorowski
> <piotr.gasiorowski@...> wrote:
>
> >(as in *drEktu- and *verde-).
>
> Small correction: *d(e)rektu with closed /e/ (Cat. drEt, Fr.
droit, Spa.
> derecho, Ita. d(i)ritto). Can't tell from Rom. drept.
>
> =======================
> Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
> mcv@...
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Writing about city name <Arupio> and ethnic name <Arupinoi>, Hans
Krahe noticed that close to <Aroupionoi> is the form <Auroupinoi>
(App. III, 6). /au/ is changed especially with /a/ in Illyrian
names, for example, <Taulantia>, <Talantia> (cf. S 38),
<Ausankalei>, besides <Asankalis> in Germany (cf. S. 56). <Bausta>
besides <Basta> in Italy. From <arup-> is syncope <arp-> in <Arpi>
in Apulia, <Arpinum> in Latium? Cf. S. SO a.2. (Cf. <Arikia>, town
in Latium, Ptol. 3,1; Steph. s.v.?). Probably we have to deal here
with similar change of /p(p)/ to /k(k)/ like in royal Peonian name
<Luppeios>, besides <Lukkeios> (cf. Kretschmer Einl., S. 247 f.).
This change is similar with Dardanian city name <Oulpianon> (Ptol.
3,9; Proc. b. G. 4, 25), for that reason in Latin itineraries given
form is <Ulcianum> (cf. Tomaschek, Geog. Mitt. 1880, 551). Here
belongs even <Krespa>, <Crexi>? (s.19).

I make this reply to make clear that change /k/ > /p/ is present
from ancient times, as in Albanian, as in Romanian and, in one way
or other to satisfy my friend George Knysh that Albanian are also
descendants of Poionians, as well as of Dardanians and all other
Illyrian tribes.

Konushevci