Re: [tied] Re: Late Proto Albanian *3 /dz/ = Early Proto Romanian

04-02-04 00:21, alexandru_mg3 wrote:

> Hello Piotr,
>
> 1. How you justify here :
>
> Lat. di: > PAlb. *di
>
> and not
>
> Lat. di: > PAlb. *3i > *di (or Di later di)

If it had been affricated, it would not have been lost in intervocalic
positions (*3 < *g^(H) wasn't; nor was *3 < *dj). However, it _was_ lost
in words like mall(ë)koj <-- maledi:co:, therefore it must have been a
plain stop.

>
> ( similar with Romanian :
>
> Lat. di: > ep-Rom. *3[i] > rom. *z[i] )
>
> 2. Also how you justify here :
>
> Lat. rádia- > *rádja- --> Alb. *rä3^- > rreze.
>
> and not
>
> Lat. rádia- > *rádja- --> Alb. *rä3- > rreze.

Because PAlb. 3 > D/d, not z.

>
> ( similar with Romanian :
>
> Lat. rádia- > *rádja- --> ep-Rom. *rä3& - > Rom. raz& )
>
> Best Regards,
> marius alexandru
>
> P.S. When we speak about these loans the PAlbanian transformation
> 3 -> D is ended or we still have 3 ?

It was [3], cf. Rom. barzã 'stork' (Arom. bardzu 'white') : Alb. bardhë
'white', ma(d)zãre : modhulle, zarã : dhalle. Romanian preserves more
archaic reflexes.

Piotr