Re[2]: [tied] Re: American dialects, correction

At 8:26:22 PM on Monday, February 2, 2004,
enlil@... wrote:

> Marco:
>> Even in external samdhi there is a similar development:
>> "shut-up" is /s^@r@/, "get in" is /giri'n/

> Normally, it seems that loanwords are exempt from this
> rule. People will pronounce "latte", that
> oh-so-lovely-funtime drink with a caffeine buzz that
> sweeps you off your feet in the morning, as /'latHe/ even
> though their dialect uses the tap for pre-stress, medial
> t's.

I'm not sure that this is a direct consequence of its being
a loanword, though: I hear it with secondary stress on the
second syllable, ['la,tHej], and I suspect that it's this
that blocks flapping. (Of course the stress pattern may be
because it's a loanword.)

Brian