Re: [tied] Genetic Link between Albanian and Romanian

On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 14:09:47 +0000, alexandru_mg3 <alexandru_mg3@...>
wrote:

> the TRUTH IS that Romanian Phonetic System is much closer to
>Albanian Phonetic System!!!

Actually, it isn't.

> The results of this differences are the following :
> (I counted 1 square = 1 difference (see below urls) -> but this is
>just a simplication , you can look next on each detail)
>
>Vowels System: Romanian versus Albanian = 1 differences
> (almost identical)
>Consonants System: Romanian versus Albanian = 4 differences + 2
>shifts
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> TOTAL = 5 differences + 2 shifts
>
>
>Vowels System: Romanian versus Italian = 3 differences
>Consonants System: Romanian versus Italian = 6.5 differences
>----------------------------------------------------------------
> TOTAL = 9.5 differences
>
> Note :
> I considered the Albanian "d" "t" only a shift of Romanian/
>Italian "d" "t" and not different sounds and also I considered "a
>shift" the fact that "n" could be generated in two modes in Albanian.

There are several problems here. Your charts are bad, and you cannot
count.

Based on a more accurate inventory, I count 10 differences between Albanian
and Romanian:

Alb Rom
1 /y/ y --
2 -- /I/ â
3 /k^/ q --
4 /g^/ gj --
5 /dz/ x --
6 /T/ th --
7 /D/ dh --
8 /n^/ nj --
9 /l~/ ll --
10 /r:/ rr --

And I count 9 differences between Romanian and Italian:

Ita Rom
1 -- /&/ ã
2 -- /I/ â
3 /E/ è --
4 /O/ ò --
5 /dz/ z --
6 -- /z^/ j
7 -- /h/
8 /n^/ gn --
9 /l^/ gl --


Alb: p b t d k g k' g' c 3 c^ 3^ f v T D s z s^ z^ j h m n n^ l l~ r rr
q gj c x ch xh th dh sh zh nj ll rr

a e i o u y &
ë

Rom: p b t d k g c c^ 3^ f v s z s^ z^ j h m n l r
a e i o u I &

Ita: p b t d k g c 3 c^ 3^ f v s z s^ j m n n^ l l^ r
a e E i o O u

> This GREAT similarity could only be explained by a GENETIC LINK

Nonsense. Similar phonological systems have *nothing* to do with genetic
affiliations.


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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
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