[tied] Re: Against the theory of 'Albanian Loans in Romanian'

From: m_iacomi
Message: 30172
Date: 2004-01-28

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Piotr Gasiorowski" wrote:

>>> Word-finally, as in <abe$> and <hame$>, /s^/ is, I think, a
>>> reduced reflex of *c^, not normally found in this position in
>>> Romanian.
>
>> ... "aici", "atunci", "baci", "brânci", "cãci, "deci", "beci",
>> etc.

... these being ancient words (Latin, substratum), I even didn't
mention any of modern Slavic, Hungarian or Turkish loanwords.

>> Final /c^/ hasn't the tendence to be reduced to /s^/ in normal
>> Romanian (it's only a regional Moldavian feature, with little
>> relevance for the whole DR area -- "abe$" is even regionalism
>> from Banat -- W Romania) and hasn't had historically this tendence.
>
> I was thinking of reduction at a much older stage -- older than
> the apocope of unstressed *-i in Romanian.

Is there anything to support this assumption? I never met that in
historical Romanian phonetics.

> Of course _Modern_ Romanian would easily accommodate any loans
> with final /c^/.

Of course.
But evidence for Balkan Romance is rather poor, too.

Regards,
Marius Iacomi