From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 30171
Date: 2004-01-28
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From: "m_iacomi" <m_iacomi@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 12:46 PM
Subject: [tied] Re: Against the theory of 'Albanian Loans in Romanian'
--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski wrote:
>> For 'whetstone', the Ectaco dictionary gives Alb. grih�. I haven't
worked out its etymology yet (from *gHrendH-sk-?), let alone its
relation to Rom. greas�, which may be far from straightforward.
> It is given in different forms as "g�r(r)es�" `Schabholz, Schabeisen,
bes. der T�pfer` (cf. Rosetti) and "gres�" `whetstone`.
So, if the way it looks in Albanian is anything to go by, it probably falls
under a slightly different correspondence, involving Proto-Albanian *-tja >
Mod.Alb. *-s�. But if the loan had been from PAlb., one would expect to get
Romanian <T> = /c/ from *tj; and we in fact see /z/ for PAlb. *-dj- (>
Mod.Alb. z), as in the 'foal' word. Perhaps the most reasonable conclusion
is that <greas�> is a relatively young wanderwort. I'll see if I can find
anything about <g(�)r(r)es�>.
Piotr