We have 3 transformations (s-s; s->sh; s->s) :
I. Albanian last s->s is active somewhere VII-X century when the
Slavs arrived in Balkans.
Ex:
sl. s -> alb. s and sl. s -> rom. s
rom. coasã sl. kosa alb. kosë eng. scythe
Both rom. s->s and albanian s->s : starting to be active somewhere
between VII-X century (or even before but I take here the worst
scenario):
II. Albanian s->sh is active : this situation is ended Before I.
rom. c~apuS~a , alb. këpushë
rom. gus,a , alb. gushë > from Lat. geusial.
Note : at this time we have also an active : s -> sh
(intervocalic) in Romanian
III. An older albanian s->s active, this situation should be ended
Before II.
Justification:
Applying the "Loan" theory s -> sh at this time is ended. see
Romanian 's' in :
rom sterp ; alb. shterp
rom. strung~a ; alb. shtrungë etcx..
Now the question is : How long could take to a BASIC sound like /s/
to GLOBALLY spread along a whole language in ALL PHONETIC CONTEXTS?
Let's take first the situation when a single word is spread GLOBALLY
accross a language:
Usually a single word like 'mouse' in 'computer language' took
already about 25 years from its invention and its spread process is
not finished yet. I'm sure that in a great part of Romania or Poland
or Albania, especially in the country side the word is still unknown
(the people there didn't arrive yet to see it, or to used it). So in
our times, its GLOBAL spread should be finished in at least 40-60
years or even more.
Now the speed of spread was about 2000 ago at least 5-6 times
lower maybe more but I took the worst scenario for my theory. (no
photos, no radio, no television, no schools, more isolated
communities)
Viewing this, 2000 years ago, a LOAN word can be spread GLOBALLY to a
WHOLE population in MINIMUM 200-250 of years.
Let's consider now the timing that a BASIC sound like /s/ spread
across Albanian and become /sh/ in all the phonetic contexts .
It's obvious that this process should take more time that the time to
loan a single word (discussed above). This process is very very slow
at the beginning when a small group of people 'aquire this treat'
(foreigners and not), and for 'unknown reasons' it arrives to survive
and to spread GLOBALLY on the whole Population. The MINIMUM time for
this Global Spread could be at least twice as the estimation of a
single word so at least 400 years. But after its global spreading it
can very well remain active for awhile.
Now we should add to this the fact that when a reverse process (s-
>s) will be started, the new process would take the same time too in
order to spread once again GLOBALLY on the whole population.
Let's apply this assumptions to our case, taking the 'worst scenario'
for my supposition.
So the global spread of s->sh in Albanian :
- Took at least 400 years to spread globally.
- It could remain stable for awhile (but I put here : 0 -
years (worst scenario))
- Took at least other 400 years to come back (s->s)
Lets compute now the 'worst' scenario for my supposition :
a) 1000 AD : s->s (see alb. site) fully active at 1000AC but it's
global spreading just ended around 1000 AD (worst case)
b) minimum 400 years needed for s->s to spread globally in place
of previous s->sh transformation. We arrive in 600 AD.(worst case)
c) 600 AD: s-sh -> is fully active at 600 AD, but it's global
spreading just ended around 600 AD (worst case)
d) minimum 400 years needed for s->sh to spread globally in place
of a previous s->s transformation. We arrive in 200 AD.
(worst case)
e) 200 AD : s->s fully active but it's global spreading just
ended around this date.(worst case)
SO IN THE WORST SCENARIO WE ARRIVE IN 200 AD WITH
AN "ALBANIAN" s->s FULLY ACTIVE ACROSS THE WHOLE "ALBANIANS" (see
rom. strunga).
BUT at that time we are fully in the DACIAN TIMES. NO ALBANIAN
AND NO ROMANIAN IN THE MODERN SENSE OF THE WORD EXISTED IN BALKANS.
WE HAVE ONLY DACIANS, THRACIANS AND ILLYRIANS AND THE ROMANS
THAT OCCUPIED THE ZONE.
Conclusion:
So the probability to have Albanian s->sh ACTIVE during Latin
Loans in Albanian is ++ ('very probable') (from a list of 4
values : ++, +, -, --)
As result the assumption that : s->s should preceed the Romans
arrival or at least (worst case) should be still globally active just
after Romans occupation of Dacia (200 AD in the worst scenario) is
also very probable (++)
As result : It's very probable that the 'loan' theory arrived with
its timeframes in the latest Dacian Times sec. II-III A.C. ->
And as result the "loans" theory is very probable (++) a NON-SENSE
due to this. AT 200AD we have to talk about DACIANS, THRACIANS AND
ILLYRIAN in this part part of the world : BALKANS, and not
about 'proto-albanians' and 'proto-romanians'.
So it's very probable (++) that today
Romanian 'strunga' ; 'sterp' ; 'strepede' ; 'brusture' (and not only,
we have also the /dz/ words 'viezure', 'brad' ,'mazare' and others
too : 's^ambure' , 'far^am~a' etc...) comes in Romanian and in
Albanian too from the Dacian language (or less probable but not
impossible from another old Balkan Language : Thracian or Illyrian)
Best Regards,
marius
P.S. Viewing this, I ask myself why some people on this forum don't
like to pass at all, the time frontier of Balkan Latin...