[tied] Re: Dog

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski
<piotr.gasiorowski@...> wrote:

> 26-01-04 11:56, altamix wrote:
>
> > Question: what should be then with the form "ken-/kan-" mentioned

by

> > Pokorny as meaning "dog" in Thracian? that will mean in the

Period of

> > Time B on your table, the form of *kwon- > kan/ken
> > By myself I suspsect the "e/a" in the word should be more a schwa

if

> > not a closer vowel. ( for another vowel as clear /e/ or /a/

should be

> > argumented as usual with the variation of /e/ with /a/ in the

Greek

> > mentions.)
>
> Does Pokorny really mention such a Thracian word? The Leiden site

is off

> at the moment and I don't keep a copy of Walde-Pokorny at home, but
> there's no Thracian "ken-/kan-" in the online index. He does

propose an

> Illyrian etymology for ancient Canda:via, the mountain range

separating

> Illyricum from Macedonia. Well, if Illyrian *kan- really reflects

PIE

> *k^wn.-, it's just one more reason for not lumping Illyrian and

Albanian

> together.
>
> Piotr

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I was not aware that Pokorny does propose an Illyrian etymology forn
ancient Canda:via, but to this conclusion I came leaded by Milan
Shufflay in the mentioned book.
Exactly, only the Illyrian form explain the lack of rhotacism in Tosk
dialect, because we haven't intervocalic /n/, but cluster /nd/, which
regularly stop the rhotacism in Tosk dialect: cf. all verbs in the
third person plural in ending -në testify that their primary form
was -nt (Lat. amant 'they love', Pers. darand 'they have'). In the
same way we may explain participle in -në.
In inherited dictionary we have also Alb. (g.) hânë, (t.) hënë from
PIE *skend- 'to shine', etc. So, Illyrian <cand> is by all means an
intermediary form of Alb. (g.) <qen>, (t.) qën, through i-Umlaut
(kandi> qeni/qëni). See also message 30003.

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