[tied] Re: Tor/Tur/(e)

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...> wrote:

> On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:52:31 +0000, Lisa <eris@...> wrote:
>
> >--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Glen Gordon" <glengordon01@...>
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> John:
> >> >The *-tl-s in Atlas seems to have been derived from the pre-

Greek

> >> >non-Indo-European inhabitants of Greece,
> >>
> >> Really? Are you sure "Atlas" doesn't derive from /a-/ "not,

without"

> >> and /tlan/ "to endure"?
> >
> >By that, you mean the IE *tel@? That's what I thought Atlas

derived

> >from, although I wasn't sure if the a- was the prefix for "not" or

if

> >it was something else. Is that the case?
>
> Atlas is "the one who endures" (he carries the world on his

shoulders), so

> the a- is not privative *n.- *tl.h2-ant-s normally gives Greek

tala:s,

> talantos. I suppose Atlas, -antos is derived from the other

expected

> variant *Tla:s, *-antos with prothetic a-.

I was thinking prothetic a- too, because he is the one enduring the
burden and therefore it's endurable. :) (I.e., a mortal man is
uninvolved, except for that stint where Herakles, the half-mortal,
endured it.) ?