Re: [tied] Re: Goats

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 23:56:06 +0100, alex <alxmoeller@...> wrote:

>Look Rrichard, I guess there I have a little problem. The /e/ or /E/ in
>initial position is allways spoken /ie/.
>The Latin examples of /E/ in initial position are: ied, iederã, iepe
>(ekwos!!!!!),etc, there are many examples
>Examples of /e/ which is not of Latin origin and it is stil pronunced
>/ie/ because it is in initial position.
>iele ( < ele cf DEX, ieftin (< Greek efthinos, cf DEX), etc, etc. There
>are too many examples.

Those are also /E/.

More relevant is <el> "he", pronounced /jel/, from Latin ille, which
suggests that initial /e/ also received a prefixed j-glide.

>The diphtongation cannot happen in two ways. One cannot have _without
>reason_ the diphtongation of /e/ or /E/ once in /ie/ and once in /ea/ ;
>ekwos > iepe ( < iapa) but caepa > cEpa > ceapa.

/E/ is always diphthonguized to /ie/. Both /e/ and /ie/ are broken before
a following /e/ or /a/, /ã, respectively to /ea/ and */iea/ > /ia/.

equa > iepa > ieapa > iapã
caepa > c^iepa > c^(i)eapa > c^apã

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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
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