Re: [tied] PIE -> Dacian : Method (part 1)+some stuff

From: alexandru_mg3
Message: 29786
Date: 2004-01-19

Hello Alex,
I want to thank you for this list.
Among these words there are some that I don't have on my list.
I will come back to ask you for more details on that words, if you
don't mind.
I try to make a Dacian 'full list', when I will have it, I will
post it here.

Thanks again
marius alexandru

P.S.: I consider that also antroponyms have to be taken into
account (if we apply to each word a marker ++,+,-,-- indicating the
probability to be Dacian or not.)


--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alex" <alxmoeller@...> wrote:
> alexandru_mg3 wrote:
> >
> > I try to present the Method that I tried to apply in order to
> > identify the 'PIE -> Dacian' sound transformation rules.
>
> I don't know how much and how correct is the the material you have.
I
> try to help a bit giving here the Dacian (not Thracian) material
which
> has been analysed by Russu and Pogirc. If this is useless since you
have
> it, please ignore this:
>
> Hydronims in Dacia:
> Aloutas(Alutus), Apus(Appion), Aranco, Araros, Arine, Auha, Karpis,
> Krisos(Grisia), Danaster, Dre(g)kon (Dricca), Gerasus (Ierasos),
> Gilpil(!), Hlibakia, Istros(Hister), Maris(os)(Marus, Marisia,
Moresos),
> Miliare, Mousaios (Mouseos), Naparis, Ordessos(Ordesos), Paspirios,
> Pathissus (Parthiscus), Porata (Puretos), Rabon, Samus, Sarge(n)tia,
> Seretos, Tiagola, Tiarantos, Tibiskos(Tibisia, Tifesas, Timeses),
> Tisia(Titza - Pathissus), Toutes, Tures(Turas, Tyra(s)).
>
> Hydronims in Moesia Inferios:
> Asamus, Atros(Ieterus, Iatrus), Artanes, Azios, Calabaeus, Gabranus,
> Narakion (Naracustoma), None(Novas), Pannysis(Panusos), Picusculus,
> Salmyris, Sanpaeus, Zyras.
>
> Toponyms in Dacia:
> Acidava, Acmonia (Agmonia), Agnavia, Alzisis(Aizizis), Alburnus,
> Aliobrix, Amoutrion (Amutria), Ampelum, Apoulon(Apulum, Apula),
Arcidava
> (Arcidaba), Arkinna, Arcodabara, Argedauon(Argidava), Apris,
Arutela,
> Arsonion, Bacauca, Bersovia(Berzobis), Blandiana, Brucla, Burridava,
> Burticum, Butes (Boutas, Butae), Canabac, Capora (Cepora), Carpis,
> Karsidava, Carlum, Cedonia, Cersie (Certie), Klepidava, Komidava,
> Darnithithi, Deusara, Dierna (Tierna, Tsiernensis, Zernae,etc.),
> Dokidava, Drobeta(Drubetis, Drubeta), Gaganae (Gazana), Galtis,
> Germizera(Germisara, Germigera), Elis, Iatris, Immenosum, Maitonion,
> Malva, Markodava, Mascliana, Micia, Napouka(Napoka),
> Netindava(Nentidava), Ofiousa, Outidava, Patridava, Petrodava,
> Pelendova, Polonda(Paloda), Pession, Pinon, Piroboridava,Porrolisson
> (Paralisson, Porolisum), PÜotaissa (Patavissa, Patruissa), Potula,
> Ramidava, Resculum, Roukonion, Rusidava, Sacidaba, (Acidava), Samus,
> Sangidava, Sarmizegetusa(Sarmizegethousa, etc), Setidava, Singidava,
> Siosta(Sostica), Sornon, Stenarum(Caput Stenarum), Tamasidava,
> Tapa(Tapae), Tias(s)on, Tibiskon (Tibiscum, Tiviscum, Tibis), T(s)
ierna
> (Dierna), Tirepsum, Tiriskon, Trisson, Trifoulon, Tures (Turas,
Tyra),
> Sargidava, Ziridava, Surodava, Susidava.
>
> Toponyms in Moesia Inferior:
> Abrutos(Abrutus, Abrittos), Aigisos(Aegyssus), Alana, Altina
(Altinum),
> Amlaidina, Anasamus, (Asema), Appiara (Appiareia, Appiaria), Argame,
> Arina, Argedauon, Arrubium,
> Asbolodeina(Asbolodina),Ausdecensis(civitas), Asiopa(Asiupolis),
> Bassidina, Basternas, Bekis, Beledina, Beripara, Bidigis, Biroe
(Bireo),
> Bisdina, Bismafa, Bizune(n)(Bizone, Vizzo), Bodas, Kallatis
(Callatis,
> Calathus), Kapidaua(Kapidaba, Cepidava), Caria, Cars(i)um(Karsos,
> Karso), Cerbatis, Kios (Cius), Kistidizos, Kapoustoros, Cranea,
Krounoi,
> Cumodina, Daousdaua, Diakon, Dimum, Diniskarta, Dinogeteia
(Diniguttia,
> Dinogetia); Diskodouraterai, Doriones, Dourostoron(Durostorum)
Drasdea,
> Ereta,(Erite), Ergamia, Gedina, Genoucla, Gizidina, Iatros, Ibida,
> Istrie (Histria, Histropolis), Itzes, Larisa, Markeruta, Maskiobria,
> Melta, Mourideba, Niskonis, Odessos, Orgame, Orgalema, Ozubia
(Ozebia),
> Padisara, Pannisos, Preides, Priste(Prista), Residina, Rhocobae,
> Roubousta, Sagadava, Sacidava(Sucidava), Sadame(Sadamia), Salmorude
> (Salamorio, Almouris), Salsovia, Saltopurgos, Saprisara, Sardes,
> Scaidava(Skedeva), Scatrae, Scatrina, Scenopesis, Sitioenta, Sostra,
> Spathizos, Sucidava(Soucidava), Spiburos(Spiurum), Storgosia,
Tibiska,
> Tigas, Tigra(Tegra), Tillitu, Timogit(t)ia, (Dinogetia), Tirizis
> (Tiristis, Tirissa)Tomoi (Tomis), Toroules, Tra(n)smarisca
(Tramariska),
> Tro(i)smis(Troemis), Tzasklis, Ultinsium(vicus), Zaldapa(Saldapa,
> Saldeba, Zaldaba), Zisnoudeba, Zygere.
>
> Dacian and Getic teonymes are very few, comparative with these to
find
> in Thrace. They are:
> Zalmosis(Zamolzis, Zalmoxis) and the "Hero" which bears some
epytetes
> as:
> In Dacia:
> Dousaenos, Manimazos(Manibazos)
> In Moesia Inferior:
> Baskidithias, Betespios, (Ouetespios, Outaspios)Borkethias,
Ebistithias,
> Eitiosaros, Ithiostia, Karabasmos(Karabazmos), Kardibremos,
Manimazos,
> Mursines, Paladeinenos, Perkos, Purmerulas, Stourouleos,
Saregethies,
> Ordiano.
>
> The Dacian names appear to be not so important (in some opinions)
> because they are more likely to be Wandernamen as toponyms and
> hydronims, thus I don't give them here.
>
> Alex